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[01:13:30] <BlagovestPetrov[> I got a Olimex ESP32-ADF today. Do you have any ideas, which is the easiest way to access some GPIO pins to interact with the board? I'm thinking about unsoldering some of the buttons?
[08:58:35] <DarwinsFinch> hi
[08:58:59] <DarwinsFinch> im on a linuxino
[09:01:06] <DarwinsFinch> i love this thing
[09:01:12] <DarwinsFinch> i didn't even buy a harddrive
[09:01:14] <DarwinsFinch> XD
[09:31:54] <DarwinsFinch> is anyone awake?
[09:51:33] <mps> DarwinsFinch: I'm reading and drinking morning coffee but not sure I'm yet awaken
[09:51:42] <mps> good morning :)
[09:52:10] <DarwinsFinch> nice
[09:52:45] <DarwinsFinch> its night time for me but im a nightowl
[09:54:31] <mps> DarwinsFinch: also I don't use harddrives on my arm computers, only for backups
[09:56:26] <mps> and I use only arm machines for about 10 years now
[10:04:42] <DarwinsFinch> i decided not to use X because it gets laggy
[10:09:04] <mps> for me X is just environment to run about 10 terminals, and firefox
[10:16:27] <DarwinsFinch> you must be running an arm64 machine
[10:20:29] <mps> yes, arm64 in last years but I started about 10 years ago with arm32. first arm 'workstation' was Asus TF101 transformer with dock and debian on it
[10:20:40] <DarwinsFinch> i just can't play videos on my linuxino-lime2
[10:21:18] <DarwinsFinch> i tried
[10:22:11] <mps> hm, I also still have arm32 chromebook, samsung exynos-5800 SoC (peach pi) with 4GB ram, video play is acceptable
[10:24:12] <DarwinsFinch> mine has 1gb ram
[10:24:39] <mps> DarwinsFinch: which linux distro you use
[10:27:19] <DarwinsFinch> its the reccommended olimex distro. it seems to be a debian bullseye build with some modifications
[10:27:36] <DarwinsFinch> im running the minimal install now though to save space
[10:30:34] <mps> IME musl based distros are faster on arm32. that could be reason openwrt uses musl libc
[10:32:09] <DarwinsFinch> what are some IME musl based ones?
[10:32:28] <mps> IME - In my experience
[10:32:35] <DarwinsFinch> oh
[10:32:40] <DarwinsFinch> XD
[10:32:49] <mps> IRC shorthands
[10:33:05] <DarwinsFinch> yeah, but what are some musl based distros?
[10:33:19] <mps> musl is libc for linux which replaces glibc
[10:33:38] <DarwinsFinch> does artix or arch do that?
[10:34:15] <mps> https://musl.libc.org/
[10:34:30] <DarwinsFinch> ty
[10:35:41] <mps> alpine linux, void linux, kiss linux and some other I forgot
[10:36:39] <mps> I'm using alpine which is simple and small distro
[10:37:26] <DarwinsFinch> looks like i could use void linux
[10:38:34] <DarwinsFinch> or dragora
[10:38:50] <DarwinsFinch> dragora i think is still in beta though
[10:40:29] <mps> I only used openwrt for routers and alpine for the rest, i.e. servers, workstation and specific use case machines
[10:40:55] <mps> have to add that I'm alpine distro developer
[10:41:09] <DarwinsFinch> oo
[10:41:26] <DarwinsFinch> are you regularly on here?
[10:42:05] <mps> I'm nearly always connected but I'm not all time behind keyboard
[10:42:12] <DarwinsFinch> i might use alpine
[10:42:54] <DarwinsFinch> i understand
[10:43:10] <DarwinsFinch> and same
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[10:45:18] <mps> and I thought to add guide and scripts to install alpine on Allwinner A20 boards because I still use 3 of them for some things
[10:46:28] <DarwinsFinch> bookmarked
[10:47:05] <DarwinsFinch> are there manuals i could read?
[10:48:14] <mps> https://docs.alpinelinux.org/user-handbook/0.1a/index.html
[10:48:23] <DarwinsFinch> oh, its on the main site
[10:48:25] <DarwinsFinch> ok
[10:48:30] <DarwinsFinch> duh
[10:48:49] <mps> and https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Main_Page
[10:49:50] <mps> if you have some linux experience it is not hard to install alpine
[10:52:19] <DarwinsFinch> i remember prefering debian standard at age 15. I would install X, fluxbox, and everything. now im 29 with some experience with artix but not much.
[10:57:38] <mps> I used debian nearly 20 years, but when it become too bloated and switched to systemd I switched to alpine
[10:58:28] <DarwinsFinch> what sort of package manager does alpine use?
[10:59:19] <mps> 'apk' - alpine package manager. and it is CLI only
[11:02:10] <DarwinsFinch> ok thanks
[11:02:35] <DarwinsFinch> do you play nethack or dungeon crawl; or have you before?
[11:03:58] <mps> no, I don't like computer games
[11:05:05] <mps> when was younger I played chess and go (wei chi) but in last decade I lost interest also to them
[11:06:53] <DarwinsFinch> i have played on FICS and lichess before but if were to play i would play on FICS.
[11:07:06] <DarwinsFinch> FICS = Free Internet Chess Server
[11:09:03] <DarwinsFinch> im install dwm at the moment.
[11:09:08] <DarwinsFinch> *installing
[11:09:27] <DarwinsFinch> dwm is my favorite window manager
[11:09:52] <DarwinsFinch> im going to give X another try
[11:11:24] <mps> also I don't use these big Desktop Environments, tried xfce for some time but didn't liked it
[11:13:05] <mps> for more than 10 years I use awesomewm and when I started to use linux I used fvwm
[11:16:11] <mps> DarwinsFinch: one more note about musl distro, binaries made for libc have small chances to run musl, widevine for example doesn't work
[11:16:32] <mps> s/libc/glibc/
[11:21:52] <DarwinsFinch> which desktop environment do you use?
[11:22:52] <mps> none, just awesomewm, https://awesomewm.org/
[11:25:48] <DarwinsFinch> noice
[11:26:20] <DarwinsFinch> brb, going to run scrollz in X
[11:34:57] <DarwinsFinch> im having to run xterm because st was malfunctioning
[11:45:58] <mps> st works fine for me. I made local one with some patches which I found useful
[11:47:30] <DarwinsFinch> do you host yours on github?
[11:47:41] <DarwinsFinch> or is it really local local
[11:47:45] <mps> no
[11:48:33] <mps> I only have local git repo
[11:49:05] <DarwinsFinch> oh nice
[11:49:07] <mps> what I find useful for more users I simply on alpine official repo
[11:49:29] <mps> put on*
[11:50:00] <DarwinsFinch> cool
[11:52:45] <mps> over weekend if I find free time I will make alpine root FS image for A20 SoC with basic tools
[12:32:40] <Guest93> #W-BC050423 my order, i pay thursday 6 April
[12:47:20] <Guest93> Hi
[12:48:22] <Guest93> Is there anyone?
[12:56:13] <bill-auger> Guest93: uf you have a question or commentm just ask it
[13:02:07] <Guest93> we have placed the order #W-BC050423 on 5/4/2023, we have done the payment on 6/4/2023 but at now you have not shipped the batteries. Could you check
[13:22:56] <bill-auger> Guest93: i would send email about orders
[13:25:39] <Guest93> Thanks. Best regards
[23:55:52] <Thoth> Hi People
[23:56:55] <Thoth> I have an A20 Lime 2. I *think* with emmc. I have NetBSD running from the MicroSD. Are there instructions on flashing the eMMC with the NetBSD image so I can run the OS from the eMMC and use the MicroSD for data?
IRC #olimex 2023-04-12
[01:13:30] <BlagovestPetrov[> Hello everyone,[01:13:30] <BlagovestPetrov[> I got a Olimex ESP32-ADF today. Do you have any ideas, which is the easiest way to access some GPIO pins to interact with the board? I'm thinking about unsoldering some of the buttons?
[08:58:35] <DarwinsFinch> hi
[08:58:59] <DarwinsFinch> im on a linuxino
[09:01:06] <DarwinsFinch> i love this thing
[09:01:12] <DarwinsFinch> i didn't even buy a harddrive
[09:01:14] <DarwinsFinch> XD
[09:31:54] <DarwinsFinch> is anyone awake?
[09:51:33] <mps> DarwinsFinch: I'm reading and drinking morning coffee but not sure I'm yet awaken
[09:51:42] <mps> good morning :)
[09:52:10] <DarwinsFinch> nice
[09:52:45] <DarwinsFinch> its night time for me but im a nightowl
[09:54:31] <mps> DarwinsFinch: also I don't use harddrives on my arm computers, only for backups
[09:56:26] <mps> and I use only arm machines for about 10 years now
[10:04:42] <DarwinsFinch> i decided not to use X because it gets laggy
[10:09:04] <mps> for me X is just environment to run about 10 terminals, and firefox
[10:16:27] <DarwinsFinch> you must be running an arm64 machine
[10:20:29] <mps> yes, arm64 in last years but I started about 10 years ago with arm32. first arm 'workstation' was Asus TF101 transformer with dock and debian on it
[10:20:40] <DarwinsFinch> i just can't play videos on my linuxino-lime2
[10:21:18] <DarwinsFinch> i tried
[10:22:11] <mps> hm, I also still have arm32 chromebook, samsung exynos-5800 SoC (peach pi) with 4GB ram, video play is acceptable
[10:24:12] <DarwinsFinch> mine has 1gb ram
[10:24:39] <mps> DarwinsFinch: which linux distro you use
[10:27:19] <DarwinsFinch> its the reccommended olimex distro. it seems to be a debian bullseye build with some modifications
[10:27:36] <DarwinsFinch> im running the minimal install now though to save space
[10:30:34] <mps> IME musl based distros are faster on arm32. that could be reason openwrt uses musl libc
[10:32:09] <DarwinsFinch> what are some IME musl based ones?
[10:32:28] <mps> IME - In my experience
[10:32:35] <DarwinsFinch> oh
[10:32:40] <DarwinsFinch> XD
[10:32:49] <mps> IRC shorthands
[10:33:05] <DarwinsFinch> yeah, but what are some musl based distros?
[10:33:19] <mps> musl is libc for linux which replaces glibc
[10:33:38] <DarwinsFinch> does artix or arch do that?
[10:34:15] <mps> https://musl.libc.org/
[10:34:30] <DarwinsFinch> ty
[10:35:41] <mps> alpine linux, void linux, kiss linux and some other I forgot
[10:36:39] <mps> I'm using alpine which is simple and small distro
[10:37:26] <DarwinsFinch> looks like i could use void linux
[10:38:34] <DarwinsFinch> or dragora
[10:38:50] <DarwinsFinch> dragora i think is still in beta though
[10:40:29] <mps> I only used openwrt for routers and alpine for the rest, i.e. servers, workstation and specific use case machines
[10:40:55] <mps> have to add that I'm alpine distro developer
[10:41:09] <DarwinsFinch> oo
[10:41:26] <DarwinsFinch> are you regularly on here?
[10:42:05] <mps> I'm nearly always connected but I'm not all time behind keyboard
[10:42:12] <DarwinsFinch> i might use alpine
[10:42:54] <DarwinsFinch> i understand
[10:43:10] <DarwinsFinch> and same
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[10:45:18] <mps> and I thought to add guide and scripts to install alpine on Allwinner A20 boards because I still use 3 of them for some things
[10:46:28] <DarwinsFinch> bookmarked
[10:47:05] <DarwinsFinch> are there manuals i could read?
[10:48:14] <mps> https://docs.alpinelinux.org/user-handbook/0.1a/index.html
[10:48:23] <DarwinsFinch> oh, its on the main site
[10:48:25] <DarwinsFinch> ok
[10:48:30] <DarwinsFinch> duh
[10:48:49] <mps> and https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Main_Page
[10:49:50] <mps> if you have some linux experience it is not hard to install alpine
[10:52:19] <DarwinsFinch> i remember prefering debian standard at age 15. I would install X, fluxbox, and everything. now im 29 with some experience with artix but not much.
[10:57:38] <mps> I used debian nearly 20 years, but when it become too bloated and switched to systemd I switched to alpine
[10:58:28] <DarwinsFinch> what sort of package manager does alpine use?
[10:59:19] <mps> 'apk' - alpine package manager. and it is CLI only
[11:02:10] <DarwinsFinch> ok thanks
[11:02:35] <DarwinsFinch> do you play nethack or dungeon crawl; or have you before?
[11:03:58] <mps> no, I don't like computer games
[11:05:05] <mps> when was younger I played chess and go (wei chi) but in last decade I lost interest also to them
[11:06:53] <DarwinsFinch> i have played on FICS and lichess before but if were to play i would play on FICS.
[11:07:06] <DarwinsFinch> FICS = Free Internet Chess Server
[11:09:03] <DarwinsFinch> im install dwm at the moment.
[11:09:08] <DarwinsFinch> *installing
[11:09:27] <DarwinsFinch> dwm is my favorite window manager
[11:09:52] <DarwinsFinch> im going to give X another try
[11:11:24] <mps> also I don't use these big Desktop Environments, tried xfce for some time but didn't liked it
[11:13:05] <mps> for more than 10 years I use awesomewm and when I started to use linux I used fvwm
[11:16:11] <mps> DarwinsFinch: one more note about musl distro, binaries made for libc have small chances to run musl, widevine for example doesn't work
[11:16:32] <mps> s/libc/glibc/
[11:21:52] <DarwinsFinch> which desktop environment do you use?
[11:22:52] <mps> none, just awesomewm, https://awesomewm.org/
[11:25:48] <DarwinsFinch> noice
[11:26:20] <DarwinsFinch> brb, going to run scrollz in X
[11:34:57] <DarwinsFinch> im having to run xterm because st was malfunctioning
[11:45:58] <mps> st works fine for me. I made local one with some patches which I found useful
[11:47:30] <DarwinsFinch> do you host yours on github?
[11:47:41] <DarwinsFinch> or is it really local local
[11:47:45] <mps> no
[11:48:33] <mps> I only have local git repo
[11:49:05] <DarwinsFinch> oh nice
[11:49:07] <mps> what I find useful for more users I simply on alpine official repo
[11:49:29] <mps> put on*
[11:50:00] <DarwinsFinch> cool
[11:52:45] <mps> over weekend if I find free time I will make alpine root FS image for A20 SoC with basic tools
[12:32:40] <Guest93> #W-BC050423 my order, i pay thursday 6 April
[12:47:20] <Guest93> Hi
[12:48:22] <Guest93> Is there anyone?
[12:56:13] <bill-auger> Guest93: uf you have a question or commentm just ask it
[13:02:07] <Guest93> we have placed the order #W-BC050423 on 5/4/2023, we have done the payment on 6/4/2023 but at now you have not shipped the batteries. Could you check
[13:22:56] <bill-auger> Guest93: i would send email about orders
[13:25:39] <Guest93> Thanks. Best regards
[23:55:52] <Thoth> Hi People
[23:56:55] <Thoth> I have an A20 Lime 2. I *think* with emmc. I have NetBSD running from the MicroSD. Are there instructions on flashing the eMMC with the NetBSD image so I can run the OS from the eMMC and use the MicroSD for data?
