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[01:08:53] <k-man> morning all
[01:10:39] <Marex_> BusError: good
[01:10:48] <Marex_> BusError: did you submit this mainline ?
[01:38:38] <BusError> Marex_, I did a submit a while back, didn't have a lot of interest. mostly "are you going to support this"...
[01:39:07] <BusError> coudnt answer that back then, wonder if I can now :-)
[06:46:23] <ausjke> Marex_: thanks, yes I used bdi2000 in the past
[06:46:44] <ausjke> but if there is some cheap jtag programmer that's good too
[06:46:59] <ausjke> let me check bdi3000 price, must be 3000 USD i assume
[06:47:02] <ausjke> or more
[06:48:36] <ausjke> http://www.abatron.ch/products/bdi-family/bdi3000.html
[06:48:46] <ausjke> did not see A9 or A8 listed
[06:49:38] <ausjke> bdi2000 was good for ppc, though i mostly used it for programming flash only, once u-boot is up, the rest is printk
[06:51:25] <ausjke> A8 is planned, A9 is not even on the roadmap, so no to bdi3000
[10:10:14] <tkoskine> Olimexino-nano + ble shield will be quite nice combo.
[10:10:35] <tkoskine> Of course, would be nice to get msp430 and stm32 variations of olimexino-nano. :P
[10:13:08] <gttodorov>
[10:22:18] <BusError> tkoskine, did some extensive pushes for imx233 yesterday. new kernel, toolchains etc in minifs (3.12) and a new imx233-qemu
[10:32:12] <tkoskine> BusError: Ok. I'll try to check it at some point.
[10:35:00] <BusError> I'm probably going to rebase all the qemu again today, clean the patches and re-submit them, perhaps this time they'll stick :-)
[11:49:03] <daubers> Hello, is there a downloadable image of android for the A10?
[11:57:20] <keesj_> is https://www.olimex.com/wiki/A10s-OLinuXino-MICRO#Android no what you want?
[11:58:23] <daubers> Does that run on the new A10 as well as the A10s?
[12:08:42] <keesj_> I don't know
[12:37:42] <Marex_> ausjke: I dont know what you're reading, but I am using the BDI2000 to operate MX6 ;-)
[12:38:10] <Marex_> ausjke: there's the regular ARM11 firmware for BDI2000/3000 which works perfectly fine with Cortex-A
[12:40:40] <Marex_> ausjke: btw did you ever read the BDIGdb manual ? They describe how to use BDI and GDB together to debug linux/u-boot/... ;-)
[12:41:16] <daubers> keesj_: Thanks, I'll email in to be sure :)
[13:05:05] <keesj_> nncc
[14:42:10] <zoidbaer> keesj_: ⁗₾₾₩₧
[15:51:43] <BusError> Marex_, re-submited the imx233 stuff to qemu-devel
[16:01:32] <ausjke> Marex_: that's interesting, I read from bdi2000's website
[16:01:53] <ausjke> Marex_: yes i used gdb bdi etc for ppc in the past, but not arm
[16:02:20] <ausjke> all bdi3000 document showed no A8/A9 support at all
[16:03:38] <ausjke> ok, found another page saying it's supported using arm11 firmware
[17:06:56] <Marex_> ausjke: yep ;-)
[17:07:04] <Marex_> ausjke: it works just fine
[20:11:47] <dksa> does imx233 micro have ceramic capacitors or a different material are they?
[20:17:50] <BusError> ACTION bows to Yoda in disguise
[20:28:38] <pooh`> Good UTC evening.
[20:28:53] <pooh`> Does anybody here have any luck with starting 3.10 kernel on olinuxino?
[20:32:59] <Niii> which board ?
[20:33:04] <BusError> 3.12 works fine on imx233
[20:34:41] <pooh`> a13-olinuxino
[20:34:54] <pooh`> without wifi, but that must be irrelevant
[20:35:29] <pooh`> i've tried from 3.10 sunxi.git, mripard's repo and even android branch
[20:35:51] <pooh`> I think i'm doing something terribly wrong, but as i have little experience with all this, cannot grasp what
[20:36:12] <pooh`> so maybe someone can provide working .config?
[20:36:29] <pooh`> BusError, 3.12 vanilla?
[20:38:53] <BusError> yeah
[20:39:30] <pooh`> can you give me a .config?
[20:40:09] <pooh`> I think everyone tried on imx233
[20:40:13] <BusError> unlikely this will work on yoru a13 :-)
[20:40:30] <pooh`> the only think to adapt would be to change platform, no?
[20:40:40] <pooh`> thing i.e.
[20:41:00] <BusError> no, completely different beast
[20:41:10] <pooh`> I see on the forum vinifr and wigyori have succeeded, but no idea on which board
[20:41:26] <BusError> diffenret core, different manufacturer, IO blocks etc. The only common bit is the "arm" in the designation :-)
[20:41:46] <pooh`> oh, bad luck for me
[20:41:53] <pooh`> 3.4 works ok on my board
[20:42:46] <pooh`> do i understand right that i can load to any place in the memory?
[20:42:58] <pooh`> Because this differs from person to person
[20:43:11] <pooh`> some load in 0x48000000, some in 0x46000000
[20:57:45] <Turl> pooh`: if you want to boot the mainline kernel on an allwinner device you can read http://linux-sunxi.org/Mainline_Kernel_Howto
[20:58:33] <Turl> pooh`: but note that it really has little hw support
[20:59:23] <Turl> you can ask in #linux-sunxi if you need further help
[20:59:42] <pooh`> I don't need much hw here luckily
[21:00:06] <pooh`> I've read that link, the only difference is that i don't use initramfs
[21:00:15] <pooh`> probably it's the culprit
[21:00:21] <Turl> pooh`: what do you use?
[21:00:45] <Turl> pooh`: there's no mmc driver or anything so you either use initramfs or nfs
[21:01:38] <pooh`> ah, so in 3.4 thre initramfs embedded, right?
[21:02:02] <Turl> 3.4 has drivers for everything so you can use a normal rootfs on mmc or whatever
[21:02:14] <pooh`> Ah, i see. That must be it!
[21:02:21] <Turl> (the linux-sunxi 3.4 tree that is)
[21:02:31] <pooh`> yes, that's what i've used
[21:02:34] <pooh`> and use
[21:03:39] <pooh`> so it may sound stupid, sorry, i'm newbie in these matters
[21:03:56] <pooh`> the u-boot reads the SD
[21:04:27] <pooh`> it has the capabilities to do it
[21:04:36] <pooh`> but the kernel won't be able to read files from fs?
[21:05:23] <Turl> pooh`: indeed, if you're using mainline, that doesn't have a mmc driver yet
[21:07:39] <pooh`> and there's no standard generic support, something like that?
[21:08:00] <pooh`> I've added general support for SD/MMC but it's not enough, ok
[21:08:57] <pooh`> and no drivers among the mripard's branches?
[21:09:31] <pooh`> there is nothing specific in experimental/3.10 too apparently
[21:10:01] <Turl> no, the mmc controller is not generic
[21:10:09] <pooh`> ok, i see
[21:10:35] <Turl> hansg has a branch with some work in progress drivers, including a mmc one
[21:10:54] <Turl> it should be working, but you may want to ask him on #linux-sunxi
[21:12:03] <pooh`> ok, so that channel is better for these kinds of questions than this one?
[21:12:09] <pooh`> i see more people there too
[21:13:12] <Turl> this is a channel for olimex devices, the other one is specific for devices with allwinner SoCs, focusing on the software
[21:15:07] <pooh`> ok, Turl, thank you so much, now it's much clearer to me:)
[21:23:35] <pooh`> I'll try this branch then: http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/nightly/linux-sunxi/linux-sunxi-hansg-test/
[21:23:42] <pooh`> That is the branch you've meant?
[21:40:26] <Turl> pooh`: looks like it
[21:48:27] <dksa> could anyone tell me what is the voltage value of the 10 pF that is used on imx233 micro?
[21:48:38] <dksa> 10V?
[22:02:41] <Turl> dksa: have you checked the schematics?
[22:07:19] <dksa> Turl, yes but it does not write the voltage
[22:07:57] <dksa> some of them it says 22 uF /6.3 but for the any pF caps the voltage is not written
[22:08:31] <dksa> I would assume all is 6.3 but the lowest voltage I saw is 10 V for 10 pF
[22:08:47] <dksa> there are more alternatives for the higher voltage range
[22:10:50] <Turl> dksa: :(
[22:11:44] <dksa> Turl, do I miss something?
[22:12:00] <Turl> dksa: dunno, I'm not a hardware person :)
[22:12:06] <dksa> ok :)
[22:12:20] <win2mac> hello there
[22:12:42] <Turl> dksa: you can email olimex, info at olimex com, they can probably tell you
[22:13:29] <win2mac> has anyone tried to use olinuxino as spi flasher?
[23:23:36] <crocoduck> azzo
[23:23:39] <crocoduck> hi
[23:23:49] <k-man> the wifi daughterboard on my olimex imx233 wifi gets really hot, is that normal?
[23:28:29] <crocoduck> is olimexery on ebay == olimex?
[23:33:12] <k-man> what power supplies do you use? I seem to be having a lot of trouble with the plug pack power supplies i am trying. 1.5A 12V and I'm still getting hangs, which i think are due to brown out
[23:39:51] <Marex_> k-man: ain't you feeding it too much power ? the thing is supposed to be supplied from 5V IIRC
[23:45:52] <k-man> Marex_, the wifi module takes 6-16v
[23:46:00] <k-man> i mean the wifi device
[23:46:18] <k-man> bah, words not coming out well today
IRC #olimex 2013-12-11
[00:48:12] <BusError> Marex_, I did a mega rebase of imx233 qemu on the latest qemu 1.7.0; all seems good[01:08:53] <k-man> morning all
[01:10:39] <Marex_> BusError: good
[01:10:48] <Marex_> BusError: did you submit this mainline ?
[01:38:38] <BusError> Marex_, I did a submit a while back, didn't have a lot of interest. mostly "are you going to support this"...
[01:39:07] <BusError> coudnt answer that back then, wonder if I can now :-)
[06:46:23] <ausjke> Marex_: thanks, yes I used bdi2000 in the past
[06:46:44] <ausjke> but if there is some cheap jtag programmer that's good too
[06:46:59] <ausjke> let me check bdi3000 price, must be 3000 USD i assume
[06:47:02] <ausjke> or more
[06:48:36] <ausjke> http://www.abatron.ch/products/bdi-family/bdi3000.html
[06:48:46] <ausjke> did not see A9 or A8 listed
[06:49:38] <ausjke> bdi2000 was good for ppc, though i mostly used it for programming flash only, once u-boot is up, the rest is printk
[06:51:25] <ausjke> A8 is planned, A9 is not even on the roadmap, so no to bdi3000
[10:10:14] <tkoskine> Olimexino-nano + ble shield will be quite nice combo.
[10:10:35] <tkoskine> Of course, would be nice to get msp430 and stm32 variations of olimexino-nano. :P
[10:13:08] <gttodorov>
[10:22:18] <BusError> tkoskine, did some extensive pushes for imx233 yesterday. new kernel, toolchains etc in minifs (3.12) and a new imx233-qemu
[10:32:12] <tkoskine> BusError: Ok. I'll try to check it at some point.
[10:35:00] <BusError> I'm probably going to rebase all the qemu again today, clean the patches and re-submit them, perhaps this time they'll stick :-)
[11:49:03] <daubers> Hello, is there a downloadable image of android for the A10?
[11:57:20] <keesj_> is https://www.olimex.com/wiki/A10s-OLinuXino-MICRO#Android no what you want?
[11:58:23] <daubers> Does that run on the new A10 as well as the A10s?
[12:08:42] <keesj_> I don't know
[12:37:42] <Marex_> ausjke: I dont know what you're reading, but I am using the BDI2000 to operate MX6 ;-)
[12:38:10] <Marex_> ausjke: there's the regular ARM11 firmware for BDI2000/3000 which works perfectly fine with Cortex-A
[12:40:40] <Marex_> ausjke: btw did you ever read the BDIGdb manual ? They describe how to use BDI and GDB together to debug linux/u-boot/... ;-)
[12:41:16] <daubers> keesj_: Thanks, I'll email in to be sure :)
[13:05:05] <keesj_> nncc
[14:42:10] <zoidbaer> keesj_: ⁗₾₾₩₧
[15:51:43] <BusError> Marex_, re-submited the imx233 stuff to qemu-devel
[16:01:32] <ausjke> Marex_: that's interesting, I read from bdi2000's website
[16:01:53] <ausjke> Marex_: yes i used gdb bdi etc for ppc in the past, but not arm
[16:02:20] <ausjke> all bdi3000 document showed no A8/A9 support at all
[16:03:38] <ausjke> ok, found another page saying it's supported using arm11 firmware
[17:06:56] <Marex_> ausjke: yep ;-)
[17:07:04] <Marex_> ausjke: it works just fine
[20:11:47] <dksa> does imx233 micro have ceramic capacitors or a different material are they?
[20:17:50] <BusError> ACTION bows to Yoda in disguise
[20:28:38] <pooh`> Good UTC evening.
[20:28:53] <pooh`> Does anybody here have any luck with starting 3.10 kernel on olinuxino?
[20:32:59] <Niii> which board ?
[20:33:04] <BusError> 3.12 works fine on imx233
[20:34:41] <pooh`> a13-olinuxino
[20:34:54] <pooh`> without wifi, but that must be irrelevant
[20:35:29] <pooh`> i've tried from 3.10 sunxi.git, mripard's repo and even android branch
[20:35:51] <pooh`> I think i'm doing something terribly wrong, but as i have little experience with all this, cannot grasp what
[20:36:12] <pooh`> so maybe someone can provide working .config?
[20:36:29] <pooh`> BusError, 3.12 vanilla?
[20:38:53] <BusError> yeah
[20:39:30] <pooh`> can you give me a .config?
[20:40:09] <pooh`> I think everyone tried on imx233
[20:40:13] <BusError> unlikely this will work on yoru a13 :-)
[20:40:30] <pooh`> the only think to adapt would be to change platform, no?
[20:40:40] <pooh`> thing i.e.
[20:41:00] <BusError> no, completely different beast
[20:41:10] <pooh`> I see on the forum vinifr and wigyori have succeeded, but no idea on which board
[20:41:26] <BusError> diffenret core, different manufacturer, IO blocks etc. The only common bit is the "arm" in the designation :-)
[20:41:46] <pooh`> oh, bad luck for me
[20:41:53] <pooh`> 3.4 works ok on my board
[20:42:46] <pooh`> do i understand right that i can load to any place in the memory?
[20:42:58] <pooh`> Because this differs from person to person
[20:43:11] <pooh`> some load in 0x48000000, some in 0x46000000
[20:57:45] <Turl> pooh`: if you want to boot the mainline kernel on an allwinner device you can read http://linux-sunxi.org/Mainline_Kernel_Howto
[20:58:33] <Turl> pooh`: but note that it really has little hw support
[20:59:23] <Turl> you can ask in #linux-sunxi if you need further help
[20:59:42] <pooh`> I don't need much hw here luckily
[21:00:06] <pooh`> I've read that link, the only difference is that i don't use initramfs
[21:00:15] <pooh`> probably it's the culprit
[21:00:21] <Turl> pooh`: what do you use?
[21:00:45] <Turl> pooh`: there's no mmc driver or anything so you either use initramfs or nfs
[21:01:38] <pooh`> ah, so in 3.4 thre initramfs embedded, right?
[21:02:02] <Turl> 3.4 has drivers for everything so you can use a normal rootfs on mmc or whatever
[21:02:14] <pooh`> Ah, i see. That must be it!
[21:02:21] <Turl> (the linux-sunxi 3.4 tree that is)
[21:02:31] <pooh`> yes, that's what i've used
[21:02:34] <pooh`> and use
[21:03:39] <pooh`> so it may sound stupid, sorry, i'm newbie in these matters
[21:03:56] <pooh`> the u-boot reads the SD
[21:04:27] <pooh`> it has the capabilities to do it
[21:04:36] <pooh`> but the kernel won't be able to read files from fs?
[21:05:23] <Turl> pooh`: indeed, if you're using mainline, that doesn't have a mmc driver yet
[21:07:39] <pooh`> and there's no standard generic support, something like that?
[21:08:00] <pooh`> I've added general support for SD/MMC but it's not enough, ok
[21:08:57] <pooh`> and no drivers among the mripard's branches?
[21:09:31] <pooh`> there is nothing specific in experimental/3.10 too apparently
[21:10:01] <Turl> no, the mmc controller is not generic
[21:10:09] <pooh`> ok, i see
[21:10:35] <Turl> hansg has a branch with some work in progress drivers, including a mmc one
[21:10:54] <Turl> it should be working, but you may want to ask him on #linux-sunxi
[21:12:03] <pooh`> ok, so that channel is better for these kinds of questions than this one?
[21:12:09] <pooh`> i see more people there too
[21:13:12] <Turl> this is a channel for olimex devices, the other one is specific for devices with allwinner SoCs, focusing on the software
[21:15:07] <pooh`> ok, Turl, thank you so much, now it's much clearer to me:)
[21:23:35] <pooh`> I'll try this branch then: http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/nightly/linux-sunxi/linux-sunxi-hansg-test/
[21:23:42] <pooh`> That is the branch you've meant?
[21:40:26] <Turl> pooh`: looks like it
[21:48:27] <dksa> could anyone tell me what is the voltage value of the 10 pF that is used on imx233 micro?
[21:48:38] <dksa> 10V?
[22:02:41] <Turl> dksa: have you checked the schematics?
[22:07:19] <dksa> Turl, yes but it does not write the voltage
[22:07:57] <dksa> some of them it says 22 uF /6.3 but for the any pF caps the voltage is not written
[22:08:31] <dksa> I would assume all is 6.3 but the lowest voltage I saw is 10 V for 10 pF
[22:08:47] <dksa> there are more alternatives for the higher voltage range
[22:10:50] <Turl> dksa: :(
[22:11:44] <dksa> Turl, do I miss something?
[22:12:00] <Turl> dksa: dunno, I'm not a hardware person :)
[22:12:06] <dksa> ok :)
[22:12:20] <win2mac> hello there
[22:12:42] <Turl> dksa: you can email olimex, info at olimex com, they can probably tell you
[22:13:29] <win2mac> has anyone tried to use olinuxino as spi flasher?
[23:23:36] <crocoduck> azzo
[23:23:39] <crocoduck> hi
[23:23:49] <k-man> the wifi daughterboard on my olimex imx233 wifi gets really hot, is that normal?
[23:28:29] <crocoduck> is olimexery on ebay == olimex?
[23:33:12] <k-man> what power supplies do you use? I seem to be having a lot of trouble with the plug pack power supplies i am trying. 1.5A 12V and I'm still getting hangs, which i think are due to brown out
[23:39:51] <Marex_> k-man: ain't you feeding it too much power ? the thing is supposed to be supplied from 5V IIRC
[23:45:52] <k-man> Marex_, the wifi module takes 6-16v
[23:46:00] <k-man> i mean the wifi device
[23:46:18] <k-man> bah, words not coming out well today
